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INTERVIEW
Ralph Bakshi



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Ralph Bakshi is an alternative-animation pioneer. His controversial work — including the notoriously X-rated Fritz the Cat, a Harlem-based retelling of Brer Rabbit, and a pre-Peter Jackson adaptation of The Lord of the Rings — paved the way for incendiary illustrators from The Ren & Stimpy Show's John Kricfalusi to South Park's Trey Parker and Matt Stone. Following the publication of Unfiltered: The Complete Ralph Bakshi, Boldtype's Chelsea Bauch spoke with the reclusive animator about his artistic motivation, what he really thinks of Walt Disney, and the creatures that haunt his imagination.
Boldtype: Who or what were some of your influences as a budding social critic and filmmaker?
Ralph Bakshi: I grew up in a different America, the America after WWII, so I saw all the guys come home, and I heard all their stories.
Bill Mauldin, who did Willie and Joe during the war, showed me that cartoons could be adult. Long before the underground and Robert Crumb, Mauldin was making millions of American soldiers in the trenches happy, in part because his work was so real. And I grew
up as rock 'n roll was starting to break and jazz was starting to break and modern art was starting to break. I was influenced
by the great painters and writers — that whole great period in America: Bob Dylan, Joan Baez, Miles Davis, John Coltrane,
Jackson Pollock, Mad comics.
BT: How do you think the cultural scene has changed since then?
RB: Back then, one could progress at one's own speed. Nobody was making money, so you had this tremendous honesty in the work.
Whether you wanted to make a lot of money or not wasn't the issue. Love really was a large part of what drove what you did.
And we all were poor so there wasn't anything wrong with being poor. The big corporations and all the merchandising you see
nowadays just weren't so powerful. I knew that when kids started playing basketball in $250 sneakers that America was finished — I mean, I knew that if you had to buy expensive sneakers to play basketball that things had shifted.
BT: Do you see some of the same shifting values when it comes to art?
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FEATURE
We'll Eat You Up, We Love You So!

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When I went away to college, one of the few possessions that I brought with me was a recording of Maurice Sendak's 1963 picture
book, Where the Wild Things Are. The story was read by singer, actress, and theatre performer Tammy Grimes, whose voice — which the NY Post has described as "half velvet, half gravel, and all magically rusty" — was utterly unmistakable, and, frankly, thrillingly
scary. The first time I played it, my roommate immediately stiffened and told me how she had broken the record in half and
hidden it under the sofa when she was five — apparently, the story still incited a visceral reaction some 15 years later.
Because the book went on to win the Caldecott Medal in 1964 and eventually became a bestseller, it's easy to forget that Where the Wild Things Are was initially quite controversial. Children's book reviewers thought that Sendak's drawings of wild beasts with fangs and
claws would scare young readers, while psychologists wondered if Max's acting out — hammering nails into walls, shouting orders
and having wild rumpuses — would set a negative example. It is of note that the most harmless-looking "wild thing," with human
rather than clawed feet and square rather than pointy teeth, is the one featured on the book's cover.
Since 1963, the book has been recorded and re-recorded (with the Grimes version available now only on cassette), adapted into
a children's opera as well as a ballet, and numerous attempts have been made to animate the story. Though it took him five
years (due to extensive back and forth with Sendak), Czech animator Gene Deitch completed a seven-minute-long adaptation of
the story in 1973 — Deitch called the source text the "Mt. Everest of children's books" — and Disney used the tale as the
basis for an early CGI test in 1983, but nothing ever came of the project.
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BOOK NEWS A few notable bits of recent book news.
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Top dollar for Britain's worst poet (Wall Street Journal)
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 An anonymous buyer spent $13,200 on original poetry by William McGonagall — a 19th-century scribe who is regarded as Britain's
worst poet.
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Dutch oven bakes books (Bloomberg)
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 A fire at the Netherlands' Delft University of Technology may have engulfed up to 40,000 books, including illustrated manuscripts
from the 17th century.
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A lady as laureate? (Guardian)
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 Carol Ann Duffy is rumored to become Britain's next Poet Laureate, an honor that would make her the first woman ever appointed
to the 400-year-old position.
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US book sales up (Publishers Weekly)
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 Despite fears to the contrary, US book sales are up for the fifth consecutive month.
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T.S. Eliot rules Google (LA Times)
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 The first line of T.S. Eliot's The Waste Land became one of Google's most popular searches after a related question appeared on Who Wants to Be a Millionaire.
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Slush pile averted (Guardian)
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 HarperCollins is launching a website where aspiring writers can submit their work with the hope of landing a book deal.
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Steinbeck reconsidered (Washington Post)
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 Washington Post book critic Jonathan Yardley examines John Steinbeck's enduring popularity among adults.
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Internet novel not up to snuff (Gawker)
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 Penguin's conceptual, community-written book — based on contributions by 1,500 people — is better lauded as a novelty than
a novel.
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Nobel curse (BBC)
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 Doris Lessing, recipient of the 2007 Nobel Prize for Literature, claims that receiving the award has been a "bloody disaster,"
due to the increased media attention around her life and work.
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Best of Booker shortlist announced (Times)
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 The newly founded Best of Booker award will be given to the Man Booker Prize for Fiction's most popular recipient, to be voted
on by readers. The six-author shortlist includes Salman Rushdie, Nadine Gordimer, and J.M. Coetzee.
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Even better than Scrabulous (Slate)
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 Slate offers a roundup of great novels about procrastination. We'll get around to reading them some day.
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Surrealism sells (Times)
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 Nine of André Breton's original manuscripts, including a complete copy of his "Surrealist Manifesto," brought $5 million at
an auction by Sotheby's.
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